Comments on: Stop it.

By: Phil Kahn

Phil Kahn — Wed, 15 Jun 2005 00:34:27 +0000

At the risk of ressurecting any sort of drama out of this, I’m sorry. I can’t tell you.

I’m sure there’s tons of other people you can ask.

By: razorsmile

razorsmile — Wed, 15 Jun 2005 00:30:14 +0000

Sooo … who exactly started the whole? Google isn’t helping.

By: wednesday

wednesday — Mon, 13 Jun 2005 01:52:57 +0000

William: Yeah, the bottled water. They stopped selling it in Britain ’cause bromide(?) levels were too high for UK bottled water standards (albeit OK for the EU, IIRC) in the first batch, then couldn’t relaunch it because of PR issues. So I’m all, dude, they have Dasani at the White Hen down the block. Life rocks.

By: Phil Kahn

Phil Kahn — Sun, 12 Jun 2005 19:15:20 +0000

The thought did of course cross my mind, Weds. The irony was not lost on me.

But I still felt like it should’ve been done.

By: william G

william G — Sun, 12 Jun 2005 17:04:39 +0000

The bottled water?

By: wednesday white

wednesday white — Sun, 12 Jun 2005 15:03:21 +0000

You realize, by making a long, involved post about how it should stop, you’re contributing, right?

(Same way I’m contributing by grousing about it. I really need to just shut the hell up and go back to enjoying the ready availability of Dasani.)

By: william G

william G — Sat, 11 Jun 2005 18:11:41 +0000

As an aside. I really like American Chopper.

By: Phil Kahn

Phil Kahn — Sat, 11 Jun 2005 04:30:12 +0000

Hmm… I thought there was probably 8 billion by now. Whatever. Like you said, that isn’t really important.

By: Reatheran

Reatheran — Sat, 11 Jun 2005 03:16:13 +0000

I know this is in no way relevent to the issue at hand, but there aren’t eight million people on the the planet. There’s six and a bit.

By: Blue

Blue — Sat, 11 Jun 2005 01:42:12 +0000

William: I think you’re doing an injustice to those out there who are making a living from their webcomics by calling them all “t-shirt salesmen.” There certainly ARE those who make a living off of their comics, and they’re not all of that stripe – and conversely, there are those who aren’t making a living off of their comics (and sometimes claim they’re doing it “for art’s sake), and they explicitly ARE using them to move merchandise.

It’s not even about the “motivation for making comics,” but more about the method and its turnout. It’s become about micropayments vs. legwork, and inherent beliefs about the nature of each type of comic, the alternative vs. the mainstream. It’s an argument over ideologies, certainly, and we’ve seen it before. I think at this point everyone’s said something they’ve regretted, and instead of sitting back self-importantly and saying “mmmm yeah, I told you so, I knew I was right,” we should focus on getting a more open-minded dialogue going, bury the hatchet (in the GROUND, not in anyone’s BACK), and get on with things.

ONE THING THOUGH: I don’t think anyone in all this has said that comics _aren’t VALUABLE_. That was never said by _anyone_. It was about how one could make a LIVING off of them, and that both varieties are equally worthy, but understandibly one will get more attention than the other – this is nothing new in any medium. It was the reaction against any one side acting as if they were the penultimate expression of the medium, I think, that spurred this along in part.