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		<title>By: william G</title>
		<link>http://www.just-saying.com/index.php/archives/2005/04/13/i-told-myself-i-want-going-to-get-involved/comment-page-1/#comment-62</link>
		<dc:creator>william G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Apr 2005 17:42:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think &quot;the bigger game&quot; is coming, and coming soon. I can kind of see it on the horizon, and I&#039;m not certain what shape it&#039;s going to be, but it doesn&#039;t look like what&#039;s up top now.

At best, it&#039;ll be the Surface Sixers thinning out of the field a bit and making the demand side stronger than the supply side, causing people to start paying out more. At worst, the bottom will fall out.

If I had to pick a median, I&#039;d say that webcomics will become a farm system for print publishers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think &#8220;the bigger game&#8221; is coming, and coming soon. I can kind of see it on the horizon, and I&#8217;m not certain what shape it&#8217;s going to be, but it doesn&#8217;t look like what&#8217;s up top now.</p>
<p>At best, it&#8217;ll be the Surface Sixers thinning out of the field a bit and making the demand side stronger than the supply side, causing people to start paying out more. At worst, the bottom will fall out.</p>
<p>If I had to pick a median, I&#8217;d say that webcomics will become a farm system for print publishers.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Stevenson</title>
		<link>http://www.just-saying.com/index.php/archives/2005/04/13/i-told-myself-i-want-going-to-get-involved/comment-page-1/#comment-59</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob Stevenson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Apr 2005 14:26:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Or you can tell your folks I&#039;ll take submissions, too.&quot;

Good to know. If I get another big wave, I&#039;ll mention it. I thought people were submitting to get traffic or a strip that mentioned their characters. Lately though, creators seem more interested in what I have to say. I have been spending more time on the writing so that&#039;s good to hear.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Or you can tell your folks I&#8217;ll take submissions, too.&#8221;</p>
<p>Good to know. If I get another big wave, I&#8217;ll mention it. I thought people were submitting to get traffic or a strip that mentioned their characters. Lately though, creators seem more interested in what I have to say. I have been spending more time on the writing so that&#8217;s good to hear.</p>
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		<title>By: Phil Kahn</title>
		<link>http://www.just-saying.com/index.php/archives/2005/04/13/i-told-myself-i-want-going-to-get-involved/comment-page-1/#comment-58</link>
		<dc:creator>Phil Kahn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Apr 2005 03:08:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m glad you feel that way, Bob. I really have no idea where this criticism community thing is going. All I know is that its size is growing, it&#039;s making making a much bigger impact, and I&#039;m trying my damnedest to keep up.

Let me know if you want to lighten the load, I&#039;d be glad to help. Or you can tell your folks I&#039;ll take submissions, too. Although I think I should fear the e-mail onslaught if you do such a thing. Still, it&#039;d be fun.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m glad you feel that way, Bob. I really have no idea where this criticism community thing is going. All I know is that its size is growing, it&#8217;s making making a much bigger impact, and I&#8217;m trying my damnedest to keep up.</p>
<p>Let me know if you want to lighten the load, I&#8217;d be glad to help. Or you can tell your folks I&#8217;ll take submissions, too. Although I think I should fear the e-mail onslaught if you do such a thing. Still, it&#8217;d be fun.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Stevenson</title>
		<link>http://www.just-saying.com/index.php/archives/2005/04/13/i-told-myself-i-want-going-to-get-involved/comment-page-1/#comment-57</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob Stevenson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Apr 2005 01:59:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I feel like the whole critique game at this point is akin to an art-class critique, a warm-up for some bigger game that, for most of us, won&#039;t come. There&#039;s validity in both kinds of reviews though, the ones from peers and the others from critics. Frankly, most of our stuff, particularly some of the stuff I review, is not ready for prime timem but that doesn&#039;t mean it&#039;s not worthy of some discussion (I try to make sure my reviews are more discussion than decision.).

As long as we accept each kind of review for what it is, I don&#039;t think there&#039;s a problem. There is a huge need for more reviewers though. I accept submissions and am backed up more than three months at this point. People want help, advice and honest opinions and I&#039;d welcome more people jumping into the game.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I feel like the whole critique game at this point is akin to an art-class critique, a warm-up for some bigger game that, for most of us, won&#8217;t come. There&#8217;s validity in both kinds of reviews though, the ones from peers and the others from critics. Frankly, most of our stuff, particularly some of the stuff I review, is not ready for prime timem but that doesn&#8217;t mean it&#8217;s not worthy of some discussion (I try to make sure my reviews are more discussion than decision.).</p>
<p>As long as we accept each kind of review for what it is, I don&#8217;t think there&#8217;s a problem. There is a huge need for more reviewers though. I accept submissions and am backed up more than three months at this point. People want help, advice and honest opinions and I&#8217;d welcome more people jumping into the game.</p>
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		<title>By: meaghan</title>
		<link>http://www.just-saying.com/index.php/archives/2005/04/13/i-told-myself-i-want-going-to-get-involved/comment-page-1/#comment-54</link>
		<dc:creator>meaghan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Apr 2005 17:25:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We&#039;re all small in comparison to PVP. And I acclaim your comic, and I&#039;m a critic... maybe.. I dunno. I like using that phrase!

And yeah, people will complain no matter what. The thing is to not give them an easy target. Make &#039;em WORK for their trolling!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We&#8217;re all small in comparison to PVP. And I acclaim your comic, and I&#8217;m a critic&#8230; maybe.. I dunno. I like using that phrase!</p>
<p>And yeah, people will complain no matter what. The thing is to not give them an easy target. Make &#8216;em WORK for their trolling!</p>
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		<title>By: Phil Kahn</title>
		<link>http://www.just-saying.com/index.php/archives/2005/04/13/i-told-myself-i-want-going-to-get-involved/comment-page-1/#comment-53</link>
		<dc:creator>Phil Kahn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Apr 2005 15:32:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Honestly, Will? I didn&#039;t even know it was YOU who did Delineated Life until I discovered this discussion on Meaghan&#039;s LJ. I&#039;ve read it before, and really, really dug it.

I know, I know... &quot;Delineated Life, Delineated Blog.&quot; I just didn&#039;t put two and two together. That happens to me a lot. :P

By the by, I&#039;m waiting for more of that. Get crackin&#039;, you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Honestly, Will? I didn&#8217;t even know it was YOU who did Delineated Life until I discovered this discussion on Meaghan&#8217;s LJ. I&#8217;ve read it before, and really, really dug it.</p>
<p>I know, I know&#8230; &#8220;Delineated Life, Delineated Blog.&#8221; I just didn&#8217;t put two and two together. That happens to me a lot. :P</p>
<p>By the by, I&#8217;m waiting for more of that. Get crackin&#8217;, you.</p>
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		<title>By: william G</title>
		<link>http://www.just-saying.com/index.php/archives/2005/04/13/i-told-myself-i-want-going-to-get-involved/comment-page-1/#comment-52</link>
		<dc:creator>william G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Apr 2005 15:21:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Small but critically acclaimed?

My masculinity feels bruised by that for some reason.

:D</description>
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<p>My masculinity feels bruised by that for some reason.</p>
<p>:D</p>
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		<title>By: Phil Kahn</title>
		<link>http://www.just-saying.com/index.php/archives/2005/04/13/i-told-myself-i-want-going-to-get-involved/comment-page-1/#comment-51</link>
		<dc:creator>Phil Kahn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Apr 2005 14:59:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think I see what you&#039;re saying. But then I think, Wouldn&#039;t the non-creator-critics&#039; motives be called to question, based on their tastes and preferences? If a non-creator blasted PA, fans&#039;d pipe up &quot;That&#039;s not fair cuz you don&#039;t like gamer comics/profanity/violence/industry jokes!&quot; But again, that doesn&#039;t matter, because we need that total diversity.

Oh, and I&#039;m glad you&#039;re glad :D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think I see what you&#8217;re saying. But then I think, Wouldn&#8217;t the non-creator-critics&#8217; motives be called to question, based on their tastes and preferences? If a non-creator blasted PA, fans&#8217;d pipe up &#8220;That&#8217;s not fair cuz you don&#8217;t like gamer comics/profanity/violence/industry jokes!&#8221; But again, that doesn&#8217;t matter, because we need that total diversity.</p>
<p>Oh, and I&#8217;m glad you&#8217;re glad :D</p>
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		<title>By: meaghan</title>
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		<dc:creator>meaghan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Apr 2005 14:35:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m glad you pointed me out to your blog thing here. This is exactly what I&#039;m talking about. More people with MORE perspectives. There isn&#039;t one true criticism style that trumps all others. 

The only reason I want more of the &quot;MORE&quot; to be non-creators is because when you get people like William G. writing, his motives automatically get called into question, and not just to see where he&#039;s coming from, but to NEGATE what he&#039;s saying. Granted, even if he&#039;d done it anonymously, fans of whatever he critiqued would come in drones, but he was a way easy target with his small, critically acclaimed comic &quot;going after&quot; the big, popular comics.

And yeah, we need criticism, we need constructive criticism, we need opinions. They&#039;re better than money on the internet for us webcomics junkies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m glad you pointed me out to your blog thing here. This is exactly what I&#8217;m talking about. More people with MORE perspectives. There isn&#8217;t one true criticism style that trumps all others. </p>
<p>The only reason I want more of the &#8220;MORE&#8221; to be non-creators is because when you get people like William G. writing, his motives automatically get called into question, and not just to see where he&#8217;s coming from, but to NEGATE what he&#8217;s saying. Granted, even if he&#8217;d done it anonymously, fans of whatever he critiqued would come in drones, but he was a way easy target with his small, critically acclaimed comic &#8220;going after&#8221; the big, popular comics.</p>
<p>And yeah, we need criticism, we need constructive criticism, we need opinions. They&#8217;re better than money on the internet for us webcomics junkies.</p>
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		<title>By: Phil Kahn</title>
		<link>http://www.just-saying.com/index.php/archives/2005/04/13/i-told-myself-i-want-going-to-get-involved/comment-page-1/#comment-49</link>
		<dc:creator>Phil Kahn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Apr 2005 17:30:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That, too, is what I&#039;m saying. Spot on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That, too, is what I&#8217;m saying. Spot on.</p>
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